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in the way of getting a deal done. georgia senator saxby clam chambliss, lindsey graham and corker of tennessee joined the chorus. this is how grover norquist responded this morning on cnn's "starting point." >> no pledge-taker has voted for a tax increase. they've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national television. however, even lindsey graham, if you listen to him, he would support higher taxes if it was used to pay down the debt. of course, it would be spent. if he got, you know, 10-1 ratios on entitlement reform. i've had long conversations with lindsey graham, and he would -- he says i would raise taxes if, and then he lists this incredible list of reforms and entitlements that the democrats would never give him. and as i suggested, i said senator, you're offering to trade a tax increase for a pink unicorn. >> all right. pink unicorns, part of the fiscal cliff discussions now. let me bring in cnn contributor anna navarro who claims she has never seen me during the daylight. great to see you during the daylight, anna. >> how are you, john? >> good, i'm doing well
revenue on the table. >> how's that for a profiling courage? senator graham is standing up to a pledge he made to an unelected official in charge of a group that most americans never heard of. a pledge that's 26 years old. but at least graham is voting to raise taxes on the wealthy. right? wrong. >> raises tax rates will hurt job creation so i agree with grover we should not raise rates. i will violate for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> so he won't raise tax rates and entitlements need to be gutted. but that's more like it. let's see some more brave talk from the gop. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. there's a menu of options on the revenue side and on the entitlement side and as long as there are two parties that are willing to solve this problem, this is a very easy thing to do technically. what it takes is political courage. >> guess what? that political courage doesn't include ding, ding, ding, higher tack rates for the top 2%. but don't pay any attention to that. republicans want us to know that what's really important is that they are rej
including oklahoma senator coburn, arizona's john mccain, south carolina's graham, idaho's crapo, tennessee's alexander, and georgia's sam bliss. it is not that they have all become antipledge, more like, well, antisweeping pledge. particularly the party of that pledge that called for resisting any move to end any tax break. to hear georgia's chambliss, too rigid, too inflexible, noting times have changed significantly, and i care more about my country than i do about a to-year-old pledge. if so, so what now? norquist in a second, to bob on republicans increasingly happy to make grover the grinch. what do we make of this? what is going on? >>guest: republicans lost the election. it was about tax policy. most republicans want to get a deal they have to give something up. they will want something in run so if they bend on taxes they will want an entitlement reform, so, that is the rub, but, republicans do not want to raise the rates with you they want to eliminate the tax loopholes and bay down the debt. that would break grover's pledge. >>neil: i have the pledge, something that a lot of the
graham, the republican from being is is being could see primary challenges this year. lindsey graham is a constant target of more conservative elements within the republican party and already seen stories about some members of congress contemplating running against chambliss in that primary. that's the big threat here. americans for tax reform spent big money this year on house races around the country and on independent expenditures. who is to say we won't see the same kind of expenditures in republican primaries coming up in 2014 and by the way to karen's point about the administration trying to use their database, their supporters to actually turn out and vote, that's the biggest challenge for the democratic party moving forward. how do you take this organization that's centered around one particular guy, president obama, and expand that to the entire democratic party as a whole? both parties are going through a real metamorphosis. it will be fascinating to watch over the next two, four, six years. >> before we get out of here, warren buffett, the op-ed in the "new york times" and
in and conservatives are starting to stray with conditions. here is south carolina senator lindsey graham. >> ly violate the pledge, long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> that's a whole nother conversation. on the issue of taxes warren buffett has written an op-ed in "the new york times" today renewing his stire to see taxes go up on people like him and him himself. in the op-ed he says people who make between a million and $10 million should see their taxable rate go up to 30% and those who make more than $10 million should be taxed at 35%. we'll be back after the break. see you on the other side. as i looked out across the battlefield at antietam. i saw the future of one great nation. but only barely, because the sun was like, way in my grill. george mcclellan, the general, hands me his pair of foster grant sunglasses, and i could see! my wife, mary todd, found them so fetching. >> he looked so fine i started to call him babe-raham lincoln. >> i was like, mary, please. >> you look like a baby,
carolina senator lindsey graham also broke ranks saying the norquist pledge can no longer be a conservative litmus test. >> when you're $16 trillion in it debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece. but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if it democrats will do entitlement reform. >> but a bipartisan consensus to raise taxes grows, republicans insist they won't budge on kaepg the bush tax rates for the wealthiest at 33% and 35%. they've expressed more openness to raising revenue by eliminating individual loopholes and deductions in the tax code and believe they have public opinion on their side. boehner aides point to a new republican poll. in the survey 61% say they prefer a deal that raises revenue by reforming the tax code, lowering rates and closing loopholes. just 28% favor raising rates on those making over $250,000 a year. shocking nobody wants to raise taxes. in national exit polls, a full 60% supported raising tax rates on americans making over $250,000 a year. it's all about how you word the questi
. and you look everybody is saying it, john boehner, mitch mcconnell peter king lindsay graham, on and on and on. all of these republicans coming out and saying we agree, you can't do it by spending cuts alone. you have got to raise revenues and we're on board, and we're willing to break the grover norquist pledge. these guys have totally recognized the american people agree with obama, and so therefore they are going to change their ways. here is my advise to all of you, all right. don't believe it. this is a con game. this is a shell game that the republicans are playing. let's listen to some of the voices. here for example is saxby channedless. it's valid now but times have changed significantly. and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year old pledge. >> bill: oh, yeah. he is setting himself up there as oh, man, i love my country, more than i love grover norquist. peter king yesterday. >> i agree entirely, a pledge you signed 18 years ago is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have signed the declaration of war agai
, not terrorists. senator lindsey graham said he'd oppose rice but now said he'd listen to her. >> when she comes over if she does, there will be lots of questions asked of her about this event and others. but i do not believe the video is the cause. >> graham says he still believes the white house intentionally misled the public about the terrorist link to the attack. >>> a big step for china's military. for the first time a fighter jet landed their only aircraft carrier. the chinese news agency says sunday's exercise marked the china bought it from the ukraine in 1998 and spent years refurbishing it but it's not expected to be ready for combat for some time. >>> one of the great political mysteries of the middle east gets a step closer to being solved. what killed palestinian leader yasser arafat? he died in 2004 after suddenly falling ill. some believe he was poisoned by the same radioactive substance that killed a former russian spy in 2006. allen pizzey reports. >> reporter: for many palestinians yasser arafat is more a relic of history than part of the ongoing struggle for an independent st
. >> reporter: another vocal critic, senator lindsey graham, is still expressing doubts about her but avoided answering whether he would still stand in the way of a rice nomination. >> when she comes over, if she does, there will be a lot of questions asked after her about this event and others. >> reporter: whether the tone is a shift in speaking or more nuanced language, the white house is all ears. >> certainly saw those comments and appreciate them as the president has said and i and others have said, ambassador rice has done an excellent job at the united nations and is highly qualified for any number of positions in the foreign policy arena. >> reporter: does the preside president -- >> i have no announcements. >> reporter: she's widely believed to be at the top of the list to replace secretary of state hillary clinton who's said she will not stay for a second term. ambassador rice came under fire for suggesting the benghazi attack that killed four americans was a spontaneous event. >> what we think transpired in benghazi is opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this
graham and senator bob corker. >> question about two of those gentlemen here in a moment. cnn this morning talked to grover norquist, incumbents dare to break this pledge, dare to vote to raise taxes. the question was will he do it again? here's norquist. >> we would certainly highlight who has kept their commitment and who hasn't, but the point is historically the people who lose do so because the people in their state have figured that out. >> back to, i think, where you were going a moment ago, bob, it is interesting that when you look at the top two, two of the top republican senators we're talking about who are flirting to break this pledge, break with grover norquist and consider raising taxes on the wealthy they both face re-election in 2014. i'm talking about saxby chambliss and south carolina's lindsey graham. does that say to you that the political winds could be shifting a bit here? >> i think so. i mean, to have these two senators who, you know, for the last year or so, even before the 2012 election, people were talking about a possible primary challenge, and to ha
is wrong capping deductions to buy down the debt. >> graham has been saying raising taxes to give politicians more money to continue spending doesn't solve any problem at all. it's not a piece of solving the problem. >> allowing tax cuts to expire generate average of $82.4 billion a year and would run the government for 8.5 days. the reality is similar to what romney laid out in the campaign. my plan is bring down rates and deductions at the same time so revenue stays in. we bring down rates to get people working. >> they are meeting with ceos, caterpillar and goldman sachs and other key players on the fiscal issues. erskine bowles, coauthor of the simpson-bowles plan, they want the business community to hear their ideas after president obama met with ceos two weeks ago. a big deal should include spending cut and reforms. >> chief white house correspondent ed henry is reporting that both sides cannot agree on whether they are still talking. >> the republicans suggest fiscal talk hit impasse and demand that president obama show leadership to break it. >> we'll wait on the president
prominent republican senators, lindsey graham and saxby chambliss are signaling they are willing to give a break the no tax pledge. that is a hopeful sign, folks, because a new cnn/orc poll shows more than two thirds of americans believe a trip over that cliff would create major problems, perhaps even a crisis. cnn political editor paul steinhauser is live from washington, d.c. this morning. nice to see you, paul. so the fiscal cliff triggers back-breaking tax hikes and massive spending cuts. you've got more numbers that show what type of budget plan americans actually prefer. >> exactly. one of the big arguments, zoraida, is should it be all spending cuts to get us there or tax increases, as well? brand-new numbers just out from cnn/orc. only about one in three say whatever deal should be struck should be just spending cuts. but almost seven in ten, two thirds of americans say the plan should include spending cuts and tax increases. our poll indicates americans are not so optimistic a deal will get done and if it doesn't get done, who gets the blame? look at this right here, about 45% s
back to 1986. first it was saxby chambliss. now south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. take a listen. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid the coming grief, and republicans, republicans should put revenue on the table, we're this far in debt, we don't generate enough revenue. i want to buy down debt and cut rates to create jobs. but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> and i think that's important what he said there. only if democrats will do entitlements, as some democrats have pushed back on that. they do not think that that should be on the table. as f americans, they believe that there should be a balance between spending cuts and tax increases. about 67%, according to a new cnn/orc poll say that 29% say only spending cuts. and who will get the blame if we don't reach some kind of agreement here? gop clearly gets the brunt of the blame here. 45% say the gop, 34% say president obama, 15% say both. now as congress returns here
and even saxon chambliss and lindsey graham all said the same thing. we want revenue and are willing to generate revenue, but not by raising taxes. it is very simple. the president does not want to -- the president only wants to tax the rich because he said it during the campaign about 1 million times. millionaires and billionaires. a family of two that makes $250,000 a year are not millionaires. the problem is we are not opposed to revenue. we are opposed to a tax increases. lindsey graham said exactly that and peter king did too. it is against raising taxes. there are other ways to do revenue. the democrats don't like those other ways. it is called growth. that brings in more revenue. and readjusting the tax code to bring in more revenue. you don't have to raise taxes on anybody. host: let's go to jim in new castle, delaware, on our republican line. caller: good morning. the reason we have to be against tax increases and for spending cuts is to just show that we are a different party than the national sociologist parted as running the white house and the senate right now. economic
of a compromise as we head for the fiscal cliff? senator lindsay graham, one of the latest high-profile republicans that says he will break the longstanding pledge regarding taxes and says he will do it for the country, but only if democrats are willing to make reforms on entitledment programs, medicare and medicaid and social security. that is big if. good morning, hope your turkey was great. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you've got this. congressman peter king and now senator bob corker say they will ignore the decades old pledge that was signed by 241 house members and senators. he says he believes it is a huge game-changer. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. we're this far in debt. we don't generate enough revenue. capping deductions will help generate revenue. raising tack rates will hurt job creation. bill: this is the heart of the matter. stuart varney, host of "varney & company". morning to you, sir? >> this is a real shift. one
to raise taxes. this morning, senator lindsey graham said that for the good of the country he is ready to violate the antitax pledge. >> i think grover is wrong when you can't cap deductions and buy down debt. i want to buy down debt and create jobs but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> it's not clear when lawmakers and the president will meet next. >> fans of comediancast william are suing him after a performance in oklahoma. >> we now know what is behind a gas explosion in massachusetts. >> the items you'll most likely see the biggest discounts on cyber monday. >> leigh: ifit's a dry weekend. get ready for a stormy week ahead. we'll check in with the live doppler 7hd and look at my [ male announcer ] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has
: senator lindsey graham will violate a policy not to raise taxes. >> from my side of the table, bring reform. >> reporter: the promises come with contingencies. many republicans want to raise revenue by capping tax deductions or closing loopholes. democrats are still trying to keep some entitlement programs out of negotiations. >> social security set aside. it doesn't add to the deficit. when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the program. >> reporter: distance from a deal still evident although the gap between lawmakers is closing. just this morning, the white house released a new report detailing the impact of lawmakers if they don't reach a deal. that report is consumers will spend $200 billion less next year. that could affect any economic recovery. reporting in washington, danielle leigh, nbc news. >>> it is cyber monday. we asked scott mcgrew to take a look at the deals you might find online. >> good morning. amazon has a 55" panasonic on sale. this is a favorite of mine. it is roku. i recommend it. it brings netflix and hulu to your television. there are several web sit
loopholes. >> lindsey graham is okay with new revenue and willing to cap deductions to get it, but only if democrats agree to reform entitlements like social security and medicare. >> i don't expect the democrats to go for premium ouci do expect them to adjust these entitlement programs before they bankrupt the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want, but if president reagan and speaker o'neill could get a deal, president obama and speaker boehner should as well. >> harris: let's hope that's true. thank you. right now, a child missing, city on edge and volunteers going door-to-door to try to find young dylan. also, no longer a mysteries, but an official cause. we now know why a strip club blew up and more than 40 buildings
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of their colleagues. were safety warnings ignored? >>> republican rebellion? lindsey graham the latest lawmaker to buck a powerful gop lobbyist and his anti-tax pledge. we'll have the view from the edge of the so-called fiscal cliff. >>> one of the most recognizable voices in hollywood lends his voice to a pro-same-sex marriage ad. >> freedom, justice and human dignity have always guided our journey toward a more perfect union. now across our country, we are standing together for the right of gay and lesbian americans. >> morgan freeman pointing out why he's behind what voters in three states did on election day. >>> and your $2 could be worth 425 million bucks. power ball reaching a new record. let's dream the dream together, shall we? shall we? "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning to you. thank you so much for being with me on this monday morning. i'm carol costello. we begin with the so-called fiscal cliff. 36 days from the crisis. new signs of just how concerned lawmakers really are. more republican lawmakers now say they will work toward a compromis
, the republican position on taxes has changed. here is senator lindsey graham. >> when you're 16 trillion dollars in debt. the only pledge we should be be making to each other is to avoid the coming grief and republicans should put revenue on the table, we're far in debt and don't generate enough revenue, capping deductions will help revenue and raising tax rates will hurt job creation so i agree with grover we shouldn't raise rates, but i think that grover is wrong when it comes we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. >> that's preference to grover norquist and doesn't want any taxes of any kind and republicans are very clear, they say raise tax revenue and would have to come through limits on deductions, not higher tax rates. however, on the other side of the aisle there's no movement from the democrats, carl levin says, yeah, raise tax rates on the rich. >> they have to go up either real tax rates or effective tax rates, there's ways of at that doing. secondly though we've got to close significant loopholes. >> movement on the republican side, not from the democrats. there are no meetings s
republicans on the issue of raising taxes. lindsey graham, saxby chambless talking about a tax revenue. medicare, medicaid, perhaps we could have some meaningful entitlement reform. that's the good news, that there seems to be this idea that we can work out a big partisan deal. we both know taxes going up. entitlement, benefits going down. however, when we get into the bad news is that while this is all fine and dandy coming out of the cincinnati, toure. the real negotiations are going to happen between president obama and house speaker john boehner. it's a lot different animal than the senate gop conference. so that's the sort of bad news. while we hear a lot of this going forward and it seems to be pos tish, when you get down to the nitty-gritty and aides and those chose to president obama, there's not been a lot of movement on the taxive of what to do. republicans don't want to touch that. democrats want that. they feel they have a mandate from the election. that is the issue we said is going to be the linchpin for the last three months. it continues to be there. there is no movemen
norquist said as long as you don't raise tax rates that is okay. and lindsay graham on that. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong to cap and buy down debt. what do you do with the money and i will violate the pledge for the good of the country only if the democrats do entitlement reform. >> gretchen: i think the pledge thing is good and bad. if you are a republican and believe that raising taxes is the wrong they think that and fine. but ham stringing politicians and many people lost election over there and turns out times change. peter king is also saying he's going to go against the pledge who agreed to it years and years and his reasoning that times have changed. here is the caviat . you are a republican and don't want to raise taxes and willing to compromise a bit, the democrats have to compromise with entitlement spending there. is a way here to find common ground and get away from the all or nothing pledges that the american public many of them were upset about the grid lock. >> brian: it is all symbolic. that brings 80 billion a year and would pay ian volv
is watching. whether it is lindsey graham, peter king, john mccain, on and on, similar comment over the weekend. if another republican is watching that, what would you say to them if they areethinking about breaking this pledge? >> let's distinguish with what boehner have said. i certainly agree, if the economy grew at 4% instead of 2% for the next decade, the federal government would net an additional $5 trillion. you could pay all of obama's death down. connell: that is not what he is talking about. >> okay. i am sorry. what he said is what i said. what obama claims he said is a separate matter. boehner was very clear. obama said, oh, you have agreed to tax increases. the talks collapsed because obama misstated. connell: what you say to republicans who are thinking about breaking the pledge? >> look, most republicans have signed the pledge. even the ones who have not have made it very clear even when they ran for office, higher taxes have hurt the economy. they have spent too much money. the entitlements are looking to break the economy. we need to spend less. raising taxes to get
senator lindsey graham says he may break his pledge to anti-tax lobbyist grove norquist. >> i'm willing to generate revenue. we're below historic advantages. i will not raise tax rates. i will cap deductions and long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> all the president that i have served with including reagan, clinton and the first george bush moved away from the position of no additional tax. >> they all added revenues to deficit reduction. >> without a bipartisan plan the bush-era tax cuts are expected to retire jarn 1st and spending cuts may kick in as well. they anticipate a second face- to-face meeting with president obama as soon as this week. >>> also in washington republican senator john mccain backed off from fiery criticism of un un ambassador susan rice about the attack in libya. >> i think she deserved the ability to explain herself and her position as she said, but she is not the problem. the prose problem is that the president of the united states, who in a debate with mitt romney said that he had said it was a terr
but to paint. putting the brush in your teeth and i can remember, watching your testimony on billy graham's television specials, many years ago and, just being absolutely amazed that you were able to do this. and, that it was beautiful art. >> thank you, but sometimes i tend to drool over my paintings. and, when i write books and people want me to ought woodward avenue the first page, i would caution them. but thank you, that is encouraging to hear. >> harris: ken, you and joni have been married 30 years. how did you fall in love with her and tell me about the experiences, it was going to be a challenging kind of marriage. >> first of all, governor, one thing i recognized about her is that she has a beautiful heart. and, the bible says, in 1 samuel 16:7, god doesn't look at the things that men look at. but god looks at the heart and she has a beautiful heart. we have had difficulties. we, you know, we have had the same type of difficulties as any other married couple would have. except we happen to have a disability involved. but, i can tell you you she's my best friend. >> i can't fold h
democratic leader james clyburn said lindsey graham and you have used racial codewords to go after susan rice. take a look. >> senator mccain called her incompetent but he told us sarah palin was a competent person. that should tell you about his judgment. >> your reaction. >> you can't dignify comments like that. i have noticed in this town f they can't win the argument on the merits, they resort to personal attacks. it goes with the territory. >> chris: would you agree to raise taxes as part of a solid compromise to avoid a fiscal cliff. >> i would opposed to raising tax rates but i believe we can close a lot of loopholes. we can do things to e-- in fact, two other things. one, things like like a limit on the amount of deduction of charitable giving. a limit on the amount you can take on your home loan mortgage deduction and obviously we are going to have to look at entitle reform. entitlement. reform is the only way to get the debt and deficit under control. we've got to take it on. >> chris: let me ask you, you say you would consider more revenue but with loopholes -- >> there's so many o
? aboutface? pushed through? >> brian: john mccain and lindsey graham would be crazy to say we'll listen to her side of the story. not what she is about. chance to speak up. peter king nailed it. the intel community might have given you papers and a talking point. no excuse not to use your inquisitiveness and find out answers on your own. the world is in new york city. what do you read on this? for the last five days i get this is al-qaeda. i'm not going to go throughout and make myself look bad -- >> eric: why are the senators pulling back? >> dana: i have a reason. i don't know this for sure. gut instinct. if you read carl cannon of real clear politics, straight down the middle guy, touching on your thing how bizarre the story is and how they slid past it. i doesn't pass the smell test. i think the reason that the republican senators can back off if that is what they're doing is last week, national liberal columnist came out and said it's not just the benghazi thing. forget about that. she does not deserve a promotion based on performance. if you have that, then if you have that on the
against him. in fact, saxby chambliss is one of them. bob corporal, lindsey graham, i have been in office for a number of years and i never see the need for raising taxes on hard-working americans. if you put a dime on the table in washington, they will find a dollars worth of spending it. raising taxes to me is not the answer. it doesn't matter whether you sign the pledge to someone down washington or not, you really have to make a pledge your constituents at home and what are you going to do for them to all those promises? >> we did some research and found out that if we don't extend the bush tax cuts, we don't have enough revenue to run the government for more than 8.5 days. >> that is correct. it's a drop in the bucket. i think if you pass that one buffett tax and that's only 4% of it. that's not going to solve the problem. it's a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> well, tomorrow when he returned, it will be interesting. >> okay, congressman, thank you so much and it's great to see you again. he wants know what all of you to get home. here's a question to tonight. congressman
cantor, saxby chambliss, peter king, lindsey graham and bob corker all saying to some degree or another that they would be willing to step back from it. certainly encouraging, but as you saw in that piece from a while ago from athena, there is still some distance between both sides as the clock winds down. >> and, dan, folks who came from those meetings with the president last week and they say that he in those meetings spoke very generally about the possibility of reforming these entitlement programs, big programs like medicare, medicaid, that type of thing, is the white house willing to put on the table specifics regarding the kinds of reforms in those big, big entitlement programs? >> if so, this is something that is happening behind closed dooshz, and they're not saying so publically. republicans have been looking at the health care reform law since the election time now, during the campaign to try to roll it back, to have it repealed. many attempts there. they were hoping that if they had won the election, that they could have also repealed it then, and now, of course, the presiden
reform, serious reform on the table. republican lindsey graham is willing to put taxes on the table but wants to make sure democrats follow up with entitlements. >> let me salute lindsay graham what he said about revenue and taxes need to be said on his side of the aisle. we need to be honest on our side of the aisle. as we did under bowles-simpson put everything on the table. >> reporter: senator durbin, a top democrat in the senate says put everything on the table. though owe went on he is concerned about changes in medicare that might set off gaps in coverage, senior citizens not getting health care coverage. there you go. they're saying to put everything on the table but when you get in the details that's why they haven't come to a deal because the devil will be in the details, jenna. jenna: maybe they start with a salute and end with a handshake. ed, great to see you report great to see you. jenna: thank you very much. jon: several republican lawmakers are toning down their criticism of u.n. ambassador susan rice and her handling of the deadly attack on the consulate in libya.
in your teeth and i remember watching your television on billy graham television specials many years ago and being absolutely amazed that you were able to do this and that it was beautiful art. >> thank you, but sometimes i can tend to drool over my painting. (laughter) >> and when i write books and people want me to autograph the first page i caution them. but thank you, that's encouraging to hear. >> mike: you and johnnie have been married 30 years, and tell me how did you fall in love with johnnie and tell me about the experiences of realizing this was going to be a challenging kind of marriage? >> well, first of all, governor. one of the things i recognized about her, she's got a beautiful heart and the bible says in first samuel 16-7 says god doesn't look at the things that men looks at, but god looks at the heart and she was a beautiful heart. we've had difficulties and we have ehad the same type of difficulties as any other married couple would have except that we happen to have a disability involved, but i can tell you she's my best friend. >> i can't fold his laundry, i can't w
democratic leader james clyburn said this week, lindsay graham and you have used racial code words to go after susan rice. take a look: >> called her incompetent as well and he told us sarah palin was a competent person, for the vice president of the united states and that tells you a little bit about his judgment. >> chris: your reaction? >> you can't -- you know, dignify comments like that. i notice in this town if they can't win the argument on the merits, then they resort to those kinds of personal attacks. it goes with the territory. >> chris: would you agree to raise taxes as part of a solid compromise to avoid a fiscal cliff. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates. but i do believe we can close a lot of loop hose, the tax code is this high. we can do plenty of things to eliminate these -- in fact, two other things, one is, things like a limit on the amount of deduction of charitable giving. a limit on the amount you can take on your home loan mortgage deduction. and, obviously, we are going to have to look at entitlement reform. entitlement reform is the only way we
. even while he hear this message from senator chambliss and corker and graham talking about additional revenues, doesen it matter what leader cantor in the house and john boehner and those house republicans, especially because any new tax reformses have to be written in the house, ways and means committee. >> i don't want to start a fight between the house and senate but you mentioned a lot senators there. the white house would want to the see a lot of members of the house, particularly tea party-backed members, given john boehner wiggle room on the question of revenue, and even if they give him wiggle room there's going to be a crucial question of what the details are. >> john dickerson, thank you. >>> four weeks ago floodwaters overran large parts of the northeastern united states. this morning britain is seeing even morewidespread flooding's two deaths blamed from severe storms over the weekend. mark phillips is in london. good morning. >> reporter: it's no headline it rains in britain, were ut when the it rains nonstop and then rains some more it's
grover norquist deniers on tv. it's easy for lindsey graham and saxby chambliss to get on tv. but when it comes down to the actual vote, that's a lot harder for republicans to do, especially in the house of representatives where they can get a primary in 2014, get a lot of republicans up who could face tea party primaries. this is a small group that's jumped off the grover bridge. i'm not sure it's going to spread to everyone. >> i'm glad you mentioned that. to accurately reflect where grover is coming from, it is true that in the "wall street journal" this weekend he said, look, there are about five republican who say get quoted by the media all the time up against me where his numbers are 219 house members, 39 senators have signed. a couple may have dropped as we're reporting today, but his point is the media loves the narrative that there's a rebellion but it's not there. >> and if you look at what's happened at a granular level in the house, the number of crossover districts has gone down since the election. so in some ways house republicans have less reason to reach across the ais
mccain and lindsey graham, don't go after her. if you have an issue with someone, come after me. and so that's the clearest indication yet that susan rice is probably at the top of the nomination heap. >> indeed. jonathan capehart, lynn sweet, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> next, want to avoid holiday traffic, daily commutes, and offices altogether? run for congress. stay with us. with verizon. this monday online only. get the droid razr by motorola in cranberry, free. or a white 7-inch samsung galaxy tab 2, just $99.99. this holiday, get the best deals on the best devices on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >>> after a brief break for thanksgiving, the majority of americans made the trudge first back home and then back to work this morning, but this did not include our esteemed elected members of capitol hill. oh, no. with an urgent need to address the fiscal cliff, support our economic recovery and consider the unrest in the middle east, congress has the day off. in fact, the house has spent just 109 days in the office this year. nice work if you can get it. nbc's
reform are they? you heard lindsey graham say he is willing to change position on taxes if democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. president obama privately indicated he is willing to stick his neck out and durbin willing to do that and will nor liberal democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. we'll see if that is a bigger dynamic that changes this week. >> what is the danger i guess is one question because there are democrats like patty murray saying it isn't a cliff, it is a slope. >> the danger is a massive sudden drop in government spending and even if you hate government spending, spending does keep the economy going and when you cut that much spending all at once abruptly you create a shock to the economy and that is dangerous and there are economists that say it could send us into recession again. >> it is not going to happen immediately on january 1st is their point. >> the alternative perspective is if you believe in preserving entitlements, social security, an eventual deal, a real deal, how much different would it really look from what is on the table w
's senator lindsey graham. >> i agree with grover, we should raise but he's wrong where you can't cap deductions and buy down debt. i want to buy down debt and i will violate the pledge, long story short for the good of the country only if democrat also do entitlement reform. >> you listen to what he has to say. steve you had an op-ed over the weekend. we talked about warren buffett's op-ed, the 30% for everybody over $1 million. you talked about raising the rate 28% is your personal number if you take it. you say from everything i'm reading it would not have a huge impact and the conversation we have constantly is look what's happening in the stock market. people are selling stock in advance what have they think may be exactly what you're talking about. >> you have to separate two things, people selling things because of the uncertainty in washington, different from the question if tax rates were higher, people would own stocks for less longer. i was reassured warren buffett who knows more than i do about investing said the same thing today that his behavior he's been operating for 6
to the idea of higher taxes broadly. we heard over the weekend senator lindsey graham, congressman peter king, joining in --. megyn: but they're talking about closing loopholes and deductions that is what romney ran on and it has been republican position for a while. >> they just discovered it. where were they when the republican standard-bearer needed that support? there is lack of intellectual integrity surrounding this entire issue. if they had any shame in washington, d.c. they would be embarassed. >> they are political animals. they have to think what is sellable to their constituents. when the simpson-bowles debt commission got together and we have to tackle the debt and it will kill us all, they said, what if we raised the age of social security retirement one year. went to 68. did it in 30 years. not going to do it right now, 30 years. dick durbin, wanted that. i will sign onto that, a democrat. we don't have the time. we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the po
at home, talking about who the next secretary of state may be, john mccain said, along with lindsey graham and several others, who said they were going to fight susan rice tooth and nail, that sort of changed over the weekend, didn't it? >> that appears to be changing just a tad bit. heilmann, you wrote about it. senator mccain is softening his attacks on u.n. ambassador susan rice after vowing to block her potential nomination as secretary of state. republicans claim ambassador rice deliberately misled the country in the aftermath of the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. but rice says that she's not to blame, arguing she relied on the talking points from the intelligence community. although mccain had threatened a senate filibuster earlier this month, he's now open to meeting directly with miss rice. >> is there anything that ambassador rice can do to change your mind about it? >> sure. she can -- i give everyone the benefit of explaining their position and the actions that they took. and i'll be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> she
the president's power graham grab there. nbc eayman mohyeldin is in cairo with the latest on this. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. a few days ago president morrisey of egypt was receiving praise from around the world including u.s. president barack obama for brokering that cease-fire and today he's coming under criticism that puts him in conflict with the top judges that. political fight is spilling over into the streets, claiming lives and plunging the country's economy into turmoil, and more importantly it is threatening the country's post-revolutionary progress. for a fourth straight night protest efforts attacked the offices of president mohamed morsi's freedom and justice party. the political wing of the muslim brotherhood. demonstrators are angry at president morsmorsi's latest decision, one that's reverting the country to a dictatorship. >> we want a contry of institutions, not symbolized in one person who makes all decisions and nobody can say no. >> reporter: morsi's decree gave him legislative powers and extended the time to write a new constitution by two months
graham of south carolina and then bob corker of tennessee. let's take a listen to their comments. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates, but i think grover is wrong when it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. what do you do with the money? -- i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> now, of course, both of those republicans are in the senates, easier to get this done in the senate than in the house. john boehner has a job once he negotiates with the president and other leaders of getting it through that chamber. i talk to a senior staff level member on the democratic side today in the senate who predicted that we're likely to see a two-stage negotiation and two-stage result. the first by the end of the year would be about a $1 trillion beginning of the $4 trillion overall package and the rest would be legislated next year. we'll see whet
the weekend, i'll close with this, on a television show with senator lindsey graham of south carolina, who said publicly regardless of this grover norquist pledge, my pledge is -- i'm from pra phrasing, my pledge is to the people of america. we need more on both sides of the aisle to step up in that spirit to avoid this fiscal cliff. we can. with the president's leadership and the cooperation of the speaker we can get it done. for ten days, not much has happened. there's been a big thanksgiving break, a lieutenant of turkey and stuffing, now let's get back to business. we're back in session. roll up our sleeves, get it done. we can address this fiscal cliff and set up a plan with the president that is reasonable. weernd to do that on a bipartisan basis. and -- we need to do that on a bipartisan basis. i yield the floor. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator would hold. under the previous order, the leadership time is reserved and under the previous order, senators are permitted to speak for up to ten minutes each. for the information of the senate, the pending busine
done. the republicans' most concerned about this are folks like lindsey graham who are very worried about the defense cuts. will the republicans' desire for a strong national defense overcome their concerns for raising taxes? i do not think republicans will raise tax rates. i do not think it will raise capital gains. will democrats go along with that? state-owny tuned. host: are there other republicans you're waiting to see come out and send signals? guest: i did nothing so with king. he is been a modern big city republican. nothing wrong with that. the republicans that are signaling that might be amenable to a deal are the usual suspects so far. will somebody rise that will surprise you? that will be the question. i do not know the answer to that. it is incredibly difficult. there is an incentive to not compromise. "compromise" has become a dirty word. host: susan in manassas virginia. go ahead. caller: hi. right when you for started talking i thought this gentleman gets it. the more you talk, i felt you do not get it. it is about policy. what they stated is in the platform of the
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